Tuesday, October 31, 2006

Looking for Certainty.... is it ever to be found?

The other day I had lunch with a great friend and we had a great conversation.

He is one of the few people that I truly value his insight and his opinion of me. We have been friends for the last six years, and dear friends for the last four or five years.

Our conversation dealt mainly with me and how I have been feeling lately. He sat and listened intently as I spoke and shared my inner feelings about me and life. He would sometimes look intense about what I was saying and gently nod his head. Other times he would smile and or look surprised by what I said. Our conversation started in the car on our way to one of our favorite breakfast places that we have been sharing breakfast's at for many years. It was about a dream I had in the early evening that night. It was a gruesome dream. Anyway, he asked what I thought could have spawned the hellish dream I had just told him about.

After explaining the dream in detail, telling him where I was at in life, how I felt about where I was at in life, in general being very real and expressing raw emotions with him that I had never shared before, he looked at me with questioning eyes and a stern face and said, "You know Kevin, the one thing that drew me to you as a friend many years ago, was that as different as you and I are, we are very much the same. We are amazingly the same in many ways. As many things as you and I have talked about, there are some issues that neither one of us has really shared with each other for obvious reasons. One of those issues for example is..." as my good friend Tom continued to share with me some of the things he and I had never discussed with each other, he explained that "...because you didn't force feelings about issues, that I knew you held such strong beliefs about, in our conversations, I was drawn to be able to share more in depth with you and ultimately it is, what I think, that which has allowed us to become such good friends." He went on to say, "furthermore, and if I may (he was looking at me demonstrating that he wanted to share with me something that was on his heart and would breach the walls of one of the topics he earlier said we stayed away from)..." I said, absolutely Tom, nothing you say is going to offend me, please proceed." "Ok, I will. " he said and then paused. He was looking for the way to say what he wanted to say and at the same time let me know he was saying what he had to say with genuine feeling and he didn't want to hurt my feelings. "Go on", I said.

"Kevin when I first met you one of the things that drew me to you and allowed me to make an opinion of you, if you will, is that you are very black and white about things. You kinda had this perception of grasping things and holding onto them with a certainty about them. Now maybe it is because of your childhood..." I have shared in depth with him about my childhood and the fact that I was never certain who would be in my life. My family went through a long multi family custody battle that split my family into 4 segments. Tom continued, "... that you gravitated to things that had a 'certainty' about them. Your faith, the kind of faith you have. The certainty in which your faith sees things. I have seen you go through the struggling with this in your faith because of what your church went through (my church went through losing our pastor much in the way Haggard was defrocked, but for different reasons). I think you were already dealing with this when I first met you. You were this very black and white person that I have seen struggle with your faith and the perception of what you have believed. You were very real about it and it was obvious you struggled. And I think even now, ... I hope this isn't making you upset?" "No ,no it's not, please continue" I said. "...you struggle with the uncertainty of what you are currently going through." He lowered his voice a little and said in a more compassionate tone, "and I think that's good for you. I think that it's good to have a certain amount of uncertainty."

We sat there for a moment, both inquisitive to where the conversation was going next. All I could think about was that he was right. How do we find certainty in our life? Is it ever truly to be found? Do you think you have certainty in your life?

I used to believe in certainty and I was certain it is existed.
I feel like I just found out Santa Clause doesn't really exist.

17 comments:

Enemy of the Republic said...

I read your blog all the time, even when I don't comment, but this one truly touched me. I think uncertainty is the beginning of wisdom. You hit a point where nothing is as it seems. So you wonder: has my life been a sham up until now? My core beliefs: what are they? I think that is a good thing, even though it is uncomfortable and sometimes even scary. I faced a lot of that when I moved here. I learned who I could trust and who I couldn't. I found out how weak I really was. No blog can explain it. But I think it is okay to say: there are some things I don't know and I may never know. We have to rest in that. I was never good at that. I am slowly getting better.

The Kevin Franz said...

First of all... your comments are always welcome and appreciated.
I was always on the quest for the comfort zone. Searching for something concrete in my life. In some ways I am still am. In other ways I am finding that it is enlightening to accept that what I see as black or white, may in fact be another color completely... not just shaded.

I totally questioned my faith and what I believed with "certainty" after a huge split in our church and the fall of the churches founding pastor. I felt duped and scammed. In part, it was responsible for recent events in my life. In my bitterness, I forsook a lot of what I knew was still foundational in my faith and in my belief system.

I disregarded my "gut" feeling when it came to making judgment calls.

So I have been questioning and answering the question of what are my core beliefs. Thus the spawn of my blog.

There is also a certain (no pun intended) amount of peace that comes with knowing that some things are not as concrete as I once perceived.

Helene said...

ok my thoughts:
1. What makes you a black and white person? Do you have issues with finding middle ground in things? From where I sit that seems a bit like a generalization but perhaps when you know a person well you can generalize... idk

2. I think that in an uncertain world, we all strive for certainty and stability. There are times in our lives when we question that though... when times are tough perhaps... trama or drama (like the church issue you are dealing with now) I think that we strive for control so that we can make things more certain in our lives... whether it is to marry the person we have been dating or be a board member/officer in an organization.

I dont know if I agree that you need uncertainty as much as you need to find a way to accept that which might end up being uncertain.

I think it is probably normal to dislike change and uncertainty. There are few people (myself as one of them) who likes change for the sake of change. I need change for some reason because stability gets boring to me. idk but this is about you not me sooooooo

3. Idk if nothing is as it seems, but for sure nothing is forever. Nothing. I do think that one day we all wake up to that epiphany and it is like learning that Santa isnt real. That all that we have and are can be gone in a blink of an eye.

Is that bad? Idk. It is a means for growth. You may not choose it or plan it... but you most likely can handle it and learn from it.

Great post!

The Kevin Franz said...

Thanks Kate....

The church issue actually came up about 5 years ago and was the start of this journey of redefining myself and finding certainty. There have been other more recent events in my life which have caused me once again to go through this very same process.

It has been a wicked cycle, and my friend Tom has been there as a witness and a friend through it all. We have only recently shared the more intimate details, of what has caused me to look at what makes me a black and white person, with each other.

To answer you first question: I am a person of specific detail. I say only what I mean (except when making a joke) and I mean exactly what I say without a hidden clause behind it. Secondly, I was part of very charismatic church that taught (and I believed) things of the Bible in a very literal sense and an indepth study of the Bible from a standpoint of hermeneutics. Thus, right is right and wrong is wrong to be very basic.

In my search for discovering what is right and what is wrong, I am finding that not all things I held to be true are true. Likewise, not all things I thought were false are false. It was and to some point is something I deal with as far as looking at certain situations with blinders on. So yes, in a way, I sometimes do have a difficult time finding middle ground with things I have strong opinion about.

Overall, I am a very good judge of character. Certain recent events in my life have confirmed certain judgments of character I have made, which I tried not to make for the sake of trying not be so black and white. Unfortunately, it bit me in the ass and blind sided me. Again, I found myself falling back to the scale of black and white.

I actually like change, as long as it doesn't interrupt or change those things I hold as certain truths... here I go again....

Anonymous said...

certainty is not certain. of this i know. but you will make it through this time in your life. no one is set to cut and run.



i miss tom just now. he was a cool guy. he let me sing with him too :) tell him i said hi.

Posted by Johnny on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 at 11:54 AM

The Kevin Franz said...

I will tell Tom you said hi. He does ask about you from time to time. Ahhh.. there were dsome good memories from the ol' coffeehouse... weren't there?

Anonymous said...

indeed!!

i miss the all-night gaming! getting my ass kicked at medal of honor wasn't so bad :/

i had my moments though~

Posted by Johnny on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 at 12:37 PM

Anonymous said...

Thanks for sharing it!! Thats why i love your famliy so much - you are all so honest...

Posted by Anastasia on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 at 3:57 PM

The Kevin Franz said...

Nastya... we feel like you are already a member of our family!
Thank you!
Kevin

Posted by Kevin&Karin on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 at 3:59 PM

Anonymous said...

this blog really couldnt have come at a better time for me.

thank you Kevin

:)

Posted by k.a.t.i.e. on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 7:38 AM

The Kevin Franz said...

Well Katie... you are most certainly welcome. THANK YOU for visiting, reading, and most importantly... Caring!

Posted by Kevin&Karin on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 7:39 AM

Anonymous said...

Ahh...my first read from your blogs. I'll have to go through them and see what you have written.

Interesting topic you presented. Life is wonderful isnt it? It presents us challanges, obstacles and uncertainty of events. It is what makes living worth living. Nothing is set in stone. Certainty can never truly be found because our belief system doesnt allow to us. As humans, we are inquisitive by nature...if we didnt constantly challange our belief systems, we would have been stuck in a rutt i.e. evolution of changes/advances...dont you think? That is why we must constantly think outside the box and move on. Without that, we live a dull life. Yes there might be a solution to a given problem at the moment, but there is always different ways to figure it out? Do you get my meaning?

Great post!!!

Posted by Chaz on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 2:47 PM

The Kevin Franz said...

Charlie.... (hmmm, now that I've typed that I am wondering if you still go by that?? let me know)

anyway...
Charlie,
I always felt I missed out on a good friendship with you from having to move. Perhaps, now that we are all grown up (or are we??) we can get together and rehash the old days.

Thank you for taking the time to comment so well. It is true that our belief systems cause us to seek out truths. It also reinforces in us to prove those truths as well... thus making them either true, false, or both. If they are true, we make that judgment and have a tendency to make them a certainty in our lives... and.... the rub. Is a contract ever really a contract? Is God, God? Is marriage truly till death do you part? depends on who is answering the question I think. Thus the search, for me anyway, for certainty. Maybe it is never to be found, maybe certainty lies with the seeker of it? I don't know for sure. I do get your meaning....

Great reply!

Posted by Kevin&Karin on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 3:13 PM

Anonymous said...

I love your blogs! I totally understand what your saying here. I haven't found certainty in my own faith until recently. You know...right when one becomes certain about something, something else will come along to shake them. But it's these difficult experiences that create a stronger belief in something.

Posted by Banan on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 2:48 PM

The Kevin Franz said...

I totally agree with you as well Anna.
" it's these difficult experiences that create a stronger belief in something"
It's the concreteness, if you will, of the belief that I am seeking.

For example:
Will I live beyond tomorrow? Is planning a vacation next year just thinking positively? -- of course this is an easy thinker, of course tomorrow is uncertain, but what about those we put intopositions of leadership? (whether it is government or church) Will they do what they say? Will they be who they say?

Or is it that anything involving people is so uncertain, that to base anything on people is to base it on the hope of believing they will be reliable?

Just thinking here....

When you get married, Anna, will your husband be your husband until death do you part? ... or is that too uncertain? Your life, at one point, was in question... at what point do we begin to take things for granted?

I think I am getting off topic here!?

Just asking Anna... but I couldn't agree with you more.
We MISS you by the way!

Posted by Kevin&Karin on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 at 3:21 PM

Anonymous said...

Certainty for me is just believing in God. He's the only Rock. He's the only sure thing. And since that's the case, His Word is also certain. If we structure our lives, not just around our 'faith', but around God and His Word, we'll find the certainty that we need to survive in the human world:)

Posted by Tia on Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 11:44 AM

The Kevin Franz said...

I am coming to find out that the only things certain in life are... one (1) thing.

I am.



(qualifier) I believe in God, I believe in Jesus, I choose Him.

Posted by Kevin&Karin on Thursday, November 09, 2006 at 11:47 AM